Samm Sacks, a Cybersecurity Policy and China Digital Economy Fellow at New America, speaks with Kaiser on Huawei’s nebulous role in the U.S.-China trade war, Beijing’s long march to technological self-reliance, and the growing U.S. Commerce Department Entity List. This episode was recorded live at the Columbia China and the World Forum 2019, on September 28, 2019, at Columbia University.
4:12: Trading Huawei for soybeans
11:24: The growing Entity List
22:16: Beijing’s retaliation
25:09: Silicon Valley’s varying views
27:21: Censorship on TikTok and Bytedance
Recommendations:
Samm: Novels by Irish millennial Sally Rooney, for her ability to invoke emotions you didn’t know you had.
Kaiser: Guitar nerd galore. Effects pedals by brand Mooer — the Radar Speaker CAB Simulator, and the overdrive pedal called the Hustle Drive — as well as the JAM BUDDY by JOYO.
This podcast was edited and produced by Kaiser Kuo and Jason MacRonald.
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